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Re: MBS Podcast Episode 87: Star Wars Armada Cancellation Reaction
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2024, 07:29:02 pm »
Glad to have another episode, just sad that it was under these circumstances...

Really good points, especially on the component issues going forward.  There are solid alternatives and variants available for all of the current Armada ship releases (except for maybe the SSD) but I imagine the cards and dice are going to present the greatest issues in the years to come.
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Re: MBS Podcast Episode 87: Star Wars Armada Cancellation Reaction
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2024, 12:17:01 am »
There are solid alternatives and variants available for all of the current Armada ship releases (except for maybe the SSD) but I imagine the cards and dice are going to present the greatest issues in the years to come.

Well, with the bankruptcy of Shapeways being announced this week the majority of alternatives I was aware of for Armada ships will be scarcer at least for the time being.  The site is still operating 3 days into the notice, but with noticeable delays and search errors, and I would not trust the two week production turnaround being quoted now.

The chapter of bankruptcy requested was for liquidation, not for restructuring, so Shapeways will not be operating at some point in the future, after questions of ownership and prior asset sales have been resolved, which means the largest distributor of third party printing services will no longer be available for the largest suppliers of Armada designs.  Will those models be available from another printing service... I would say yes, but not for some time and not at the price or quality of consistency they were from Shapeways.
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Re: MBS Podcast Episode 87: Star Wars Armada Cancellation Reaction
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2024, 05:11:23 pm »
The good news is that a lot of the designs for Armada are still available in STL form, or in full prints from Etsy shops. To be honest, I'm not overly shocked that Shapeways went under, though it did happen faster than I thought.

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Re: MBS Podcast Episode 87: Star Wars Armada Cancellation Reaction
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2024, 07:32:11 pm »
The chapter of bankruptcy requested was for liquidation, not for restructuring, so Shapeways will not be operating at some point in the future, after questions of ownership and prior asset sales have been resolved, which means the largest distributor of third party printing services will no longer be available for the largest suppliers of Armada designs.  Will those models be available from another printing service... I would say yes, but not for some time and not at the price or quality of consistency they were from Shapeways.

Yesterday saw a flurry of announcements of the partial return of Shapeways.  Only partial as operations will apparently be rebuilding in Europe, but any potential US facility return is very unclear, and the available print material options have been cut back with the original fine detail and ultra, the best for miniatures, being replaced by alternate materials.

Also notable is that the Marketplace at Shapeways will not be coming back, to be replaced by a Shapeways Shops concept.  I doubt that the new infrastructure will allow the searchability and cross referencing of model alternatives between different designers to the same extent that the original did, as the rebuilding is going to be driven mostly by any modelers that choose to return to Shapeways.

The ease of use on the consumer site is still there, it was less than a minute to create a new account and run a model through their quality checks, but the costs are prohibitive.  I compared a miniature of mine from a December 2020 invoice to now, and for a piece roughly a cubic inch in volume I could get the material costs incredibly close, $8.73 in fine clear then to $8.74 in tan visijet today, but nothing else.  A minimum parts charge of $25.00 is now standard, a new priority charge of $1.53 is required for any production before Christmas, and the shipping has almost tripled, $9.71 then to $24.96 now.

I think with the current situation, Shapeways cannot be a hub for miniatures going forward.  I would expect their quality control to be the highest for any custom product made, but will that really make up for the cost differential between them and the average hobbyist putting up models on Etsy?
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Re: MBS Podcast Episode 87: Star Wars Armada Cancellation Reaction
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2024, 04:45:35 pm »
This Shapeways business is definitely something that was not on my 2024 bingo card. While it has been years since I've ordered anything from the service, I know that many gamers were relying on it to source prints of esoteric modeling subjects.
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