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Dystopian Wars Rules questions and answers
« on: April 03, 2014, 11:29:38 pm »
DW certainly has it share of rule questions. This forum can serve to highlight them and "crowd source" answers. Ok "Crowd" is bit of an overstatement. People play in different forums bring different interpretations.

So lets' kick this off
Do flyers (at flying or obscured levels) get to ack ack tiny flyers (TFTs) before the TFTs can attack?
I thought they it was simultaneous. So I looked up what I could.  On page 46, Squadron Activation Sequence Section 3c--"Resolve ALL tiny Flyer Combat" In the second yellow box it states Simultaneously resolve ALL attack or Counter ack ack between Tiny Flyers and Flying or Obscured models.

In section 3b it says: Resolve all counterattack ack ack against flying or obscured model or tokens, that is NOT Tiny Flyers.
Huh Tokens that are Not tiny flyers? What are these? Even the new models with the Tiny Targets MAR do not get treated as tokens. But "..NOT Tiny Flyers ..." is pretty clear.

Thoughts?
 I know there were at least two rules I had way wrong. Shooting at prized vessel that were of your fleet was one- Can't do it.


« Last Edit: April 04, 2014, 06:58:10 am by CDR-G »

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Re: Dystopian Wars Rules questions and answers
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2014, 12:00:11 am »
Another question- Does CAP combine  CounterAttack Ack Ack with its associated models?
How about escorts?
From what I can find TFTs flying CAP do not combine Counter attack ack ack with the parent model. However if within four inches of the attacking TFTs they exchange simultaneous ACK ACK. This happens AFTER the parent model and any escorts within 8 inches of the attacking TFTs have done their ack ack counter-attack. Can someone check the spot (s) in the 1.1 rulebook where CAP is used in defending, mostly on pages 56 and 57, but also the Activation Sequence on page 46. The sequence on page 46 (models shoot ack ack at TFTs first) and the paragragh "Tiny Flyers" on page 57 seem out of Sync. Also, the sequence on page 56 seems to be incomplete- 3a. should include "Not against Tiny flyer"

What I can figure out--
TFT to TFT ack ack is always simultaneous.
(Surface?) Model ack ack is resolved separately against flying models and TFTs and before and ordnance attacks from flyers/TFT (loses, hits affect the AD).
TFT and Flying models ack ack attack/counterattacks are resolved simultaneously. (so DIFFERENT than above but still before any ordnance attacks- like bombing a large flyer)
CAP attacks/counterattacks separately from the parent model.
Escorts become part of the large/massive unit's squadron and therefore can link AA like other squadrons- I can't find anything that says it can combine ack ack with the the parent. However I am happy if it is to be found.
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Re: Dystopian Wars Rules questions and answers
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2014, 08:06:36 am »
TFT ACK ACK to hit numbers against flyers. So you have a bomber squadron of five with no ordnance left and you attack a flyer. The TFTs would get five dice for 4-6 against medium and large flyers and 5-6 against smalls. The attack and counterattack is resolved simultaneously--
Any dissenters? 

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Escorts combine fire
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2014, 01:03:55 pm »
Apparently on page 62 it states that escorts may combine auxiliary weapons (AA and CC) with a parent.
that leaves CAP, I don't have rules on me right now but will check.
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Re: Dystopian Wars Rules questions and answers
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2014, 11:54:43 pm »
Moved, at your request!

So, here is what I was able to dig up at the SG forums (imagraef has sanction from SG to make rules questions replies):

http://community.spartangames.co.uk/index.php?/topic/6391-tft-vs-flying-models-ack-ack-attacks-simultaneous/