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[LtDan1989]

I'll take the spacemarines and I'll have a look at the two thousand points list tonight

[Ruckdog]

I'll take the spacemarines and I'll have a look at the two thousand points list tonight

Awesome! I've updated the first post.

[Green Squad Leader]

I'd recommend the BFG:XR Fleets of the Adeptus Astartes codex if you want to build a larger scale fleet.  Space Marines suffered in the original game for having 5 ships with effectively 0 options, and from the fact that strike cruisers weren't very good.  The BFG:XR rules use the lore concept that Strike Cruiser and Battle Barge are actually terms used to describe a wide array of vessels of similar displacement utilized by the chapters.  As such a Strike Cruiser has a few alternative builds you can choose from when you construct it, allowing you to carry torpedoes instead of thunderhawks for example.  Also it has the rules for Thunderhawk Annihilators, bomber variants introduced in Into the Warp, and the Battlebarge variants incorporated as well.

So again the majority of the fleet list is identical, just with all the options which were introduced over time.  The only real change is that you can take a second shield for strike cruisers for 15 points, which makes them a very viable ship.

Here's the link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/gxpskxvh01sik4u/BFGXR%20-%20Space%20Marines.pdf?dl=0

[Ruckdog]

There are also some SM lists for various chapters in the rules repository if you would rather use those as counts-as Dark Angels. I faced a Grey Knights fleet at Adepticon that was no Joke!

[LtDan1989]

Where's the rules repository?

[LtDan1989]

What is the groups thinking of the space marines being able to take a IN vessel paying an extra 35 points for space marine crew?? This also converts the launch bays on the IN vessels to carry thunderhawks at half the rate rounded up so for example a ship that would normally launch five fighter/ bombers would instead launch three stands of thunderhawks

[Green Squad Leader]

That's a "Venerable Battlebarge", its perfectly fine given the restrictions. You'll only ever have 1 of them and the launch capacity is reduced a bit. In my book at least thats no mpre broken than any other battleship.  You can use Chaos ships as well as the base for such a ship.

[Ruckdog]

Where's the rules repository?

It's a public google drive. Here is the link:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B4zS3VniE-N-fkp6c0hhS09neGVTQlUtNVYwbC1QelAzX0Q1Wm1kMHpuZFVRc25pQW5Cejg?usp=sharing

[LtDan1989]

Thanks I think I have my fleet sorted will do the dice rolls and post up shortly. Also have two friends who are interested in the campaign I have sent them both the link to this page so they can join up

[LtDan1989]

Trying to find vassel anyone got a link to the battlefleet gothic section?

[Ruckdog]

Great! The more the merrier.

[Ruckdog]

Trying to find vassel anyone got a link to the battlefleet gothic section?

I'll get you the link when I get home tonight.

[LtDan1989]

Thanks Ruck

[Ruckdog]

No prob! Here is the link:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/jjjf9ch0fehv1o7/VBFG_v2-2.vmod

I'll also add it to the Rules thread in case others need to find it later.

[Seahawk]

Personally I think the 2010 FAQ SM fleets are more than sufficient for the fleet. Plenty of variety and still limited, exactly as they should be. The shield upgrade is there as well; it's not just the province of BFG:XRABFfdfvbc... lol