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DW Chinese Federation Dragon Dreadnaught
« on: June 24, 2014, 10:40:36 pm »
Holy.  Freakin'.  Cow.

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Must have one of these as soon as it comes out.
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Re: DW Chinese Federation Dragon Dreadnaught
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2014, 11:18:03 pm »
Bad Bad Spartangames.  You should not make things like that to ieze my money.

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Re: DW Chinese Federation Dragon Dreadnaught
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2014, 11:53:10 pm »
Well said, well said.  Part of me hopes they release it soon, part of me hopes they'll wait a bit so I can devise a paint scheme worthy of such a beast.

Can't wait to see if someone puts wings on one of these models...I think there may be some dragons from Reaper minis that have wings that might be the right size.
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Re: DW Chinese Federation Dragon Dreadnaught
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2014, 01:30:39 am »
Oriental dragons dont typically have wings, it would look a little silly imo with them. Speaking of silly base coat white and cover it in white fur, call it the Falkor.
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Re: DW Chinese Federation Dragon Dreadnaught
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2014, 09:38:50 am »
There be dragons here...

Right before shipping off one of our players joined the Chinese cause. I'm sure when he returns from the east he'll be riding on this  ::)
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Re: DW Chinese Federation Dragon Dreadnaught
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2014, 01:32:17 pm »
Oriental dragons dont typically have wings, it would look a little silly imo with them.

Temeraire has wings, and he's a Celestial, native to China.  :D

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Re: DW Chinese Federation Dragon Dreadnaught
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2014, 01:51:29 pm »
Update from Delboy over on the Spartan Games forum:

"Its not a Dreadnought.
 
Its a Large Surface Skimming Armoured Robot.

I think Neil made a mistake in his eagerness to post the picky [......Chris only finished it that day and Neil couldn't wait to share it!....]
 
The model has Rocket Batteries, a nasty flamethrower for a mouth and 'claws of doom!' for ripping things apart!!
 
At present we have it at around 150pts and so its a good match up vs. Metzgers and Ikas.
 
This model is one of many new things on the way for the Chinese Federation!...... folding Mobile Airfields, Fortified Bombards, Temple Dogs, etc..... Watch this space
 
Cheers
 
d"

So that answers a few questions, and hopefully will tone down the howlers on the SG forum about the Chinese having two dreadnaughts.
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Re: DW Chinese Federation Dragon Dreadnaught
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2014, 04:56:57 pm »
Awesome looking model. A mechanical flying dragon that spits fire is Steampunk with a capital S! This thing is destined to be one of the signature models of the range IMO, up there with the Imperium sky fortress and the Magenta. Thanks for re-posting this!

So that answers a few questions, and hopefully will tone down the howlers on the SG forum about the Chinese having two dreadnaughts.

People actually complained about that?! ???

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Re: DW Chinese Federation Dragon Dreadnaught
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2014, 06:29:01 pm »
Awesome looking model. A mechanical flying dragon that spits fire is Steampunk with a capital S! This thing is destined to be one of the signature models of the range IMO, up there with the Imperium sky fortress and the Magenta. Thanks for re-posting this!

So that answers a few questions, and hopefully will tone down the howlers on the SG forum about the Chinese having two dreadnaughts.

People actually complained about that?! ???

Agreed, it has the potential to be iconic.  Some people have complained that it looks out of place in the DW world, but I disagree.  Compared to the other robots being used (I think only the Ika and Metzger are "large" robots; the John Henry and the Freedom are medium and small, respectively), it actually fits in quite well with the faction.  Dragons are an integral part of Chinese culture, but the John Henry, Freedom, and Ika really don't have much to do with their respective factions' history or mythology, either in the DW world or the real world.  At least the Metzger brings to mind armored Teutonic knights of medieval times.

Plus, the photography potential here is flat out cool...can't wait to see pics of this thing assaulting a (preferrably Prussian  :D) battleship or battlecruiser!

Yeah, some people were whining when they thought it was a dreadnaught.  I guess that's *slightly* understandable, as no other faction has two choices for dreadnaughts, but then Delboy clarified that it is a large skimmer.  I'm also really happy to hear that there are more Chinese models on the way...played a hard fought game with them against my local Prussian opponent, and was able to get the dreadnaught into the fray for the first time.  There were corrosion tokens and raging fire markers all over the place thanks to those flamethrowers.
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Re: DW Chinese Federation Dragon Dreadnaught
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2014, 07:15:43 pm »
I respectfully disagree on the John Henry's. They feel pretty American to me. Very Iron Giant. Just wish the stats were a little better for 2.0. Yes it needed a change, but still allowing it to be a boarding threat would have been nice. Haven't taken a hard look at the other bots but I'm thinking they still pack a hell of a punch. Robots ripping hulls apart is just way way way to cool. This new Dragon will be sure to do that!
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Re: DW Chinese Federation Dragon Dreadnaught
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2014, 09:50:20 am »
Yeah, I can see that.

So far, I'm mostly happy with the John Henry's new stats.  I never really used them for boarding anyway.  I really like that they now have 360 movement.  And their guns and rockets didn't get downgraded too terribly.

As stated before, my biggest issue with robots in 2.0 is the decision to relegate the Freedom-class to escort-only.  Those things were little killers.  But, with the advent of 360-degree bombs, maybe my Avions can pick up the slack.
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Re: DW Chinese Federation Dragon Dreadnaught
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2014, 01:11:42 pm »
The new dragon model may be just the piece which will convince me to start collecting some Chinese ships.  I may already have a color scheme picked out for the fleet:


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Re: DW Chinese Federation Dragon Dreadnaught
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2014, 03:29:54 pm »
Well, I can tell you from experience that they are a nuanced fleet to field.  I was so used to "point and shoot" with my FSA; the Chinese have a lot of special MARs to keep up with, and if you don't pay attention to them you end up not using the ships to their fullest potential. 
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Re: DW Chinese Federation Dragon Dreadnaught
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2014, 11:11:15 pm »
So, Landlubber, are you adding Chinese models as allies to your FSA fleet?  Is it possible you could put together an "all-robot" force?  I can nearly imagine that flying Chinese dragon charging into battle flanked by dozens of John Henry machines.  :)

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Re: DW Chinese Federation Dragon Dreadnaught
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2014, 02:06:55 am »
Actually, when I run my Chinese, I usually run French air support with them.  I don't think you can run Chinese and FSA together--FSA is Grand Coalition, and the Chinese are Imperial Bond.  But yes, the thought of one of these flying into battle flanked by John Henry robots is tantalizing...
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